Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sociology/Archive 7

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Just alerting the project that the main article "Sociology" has been vandalized over the weekend. There's really a lot of bull in it now. Corrected some like "the first sociologist was 14th century Paris Hilton, a Martian Spaceial analyst living in Andalusia." Follows in this vein throughout the whole article. Please help, since this is the core article for this projet, or give notice to some admins who are responsible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Singularity Rider (talk • contribs) 10:04, 1 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-01T10:04:00.000Z","author":"Singularity Rider","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Singularity_Rider-2011-03-01T10:04:00.000Z-Sociology_article_heavily_vandalized","replies":[]}}-->

In the current article on "Interpersonal Relations" the only mention/definition of capitalisation is the following quote: People often turn to others to share their good news (termed “capitalization”). (under the headline: "Capitalizing on positive events")

What i miss (and it might be a completely separate topic) is information concerning the modern pecuniary capitalisation [of the IR] as examplified by (virtual) social relations through media such as Facebook, phone companies and dating services etc. 87.51.147.41 (talk) 08:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-24T08:01:00.000Z","author":"87.51.147.41","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-87.51.147.41-2010-07-24T08:01:00.000Z-The_modern_capitalisation_of_the_interpersonal_relations","replies":[]}}-->

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Sociology to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 00:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-01T00:58:00.000Z","author":"Mr.Z-man","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mr.Z-man-2010-08-01T00:58:00.000Z-Pageview_stats","replies":[],"displayName":"Mr."}}-->

BAE Systems is looking for professionals in the field of the Social Sciences preferrably with a Master's Degree or a PhD in Sociology or Anthropology to join our HTS team. Requirements include the ability to conduct field research(At least a year's experience regarding ethnical issues), data mining, interviewing and report compilation. The training takes place at Fort Leavenworth and those who make it through the training go to work for the government in Iraq and Afghanistan to help the military understand the local culture. The compensation is superb, the deployment is only for six months and you are supporting our troops, the warfighters, that keep you and your family free. For more information, please contact me at pam.silver@baesystems.com or simply send me your resume and I will contact you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.32.192.33 (talk) 15:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-10T15:11:00.000Z","author":"149.32.192.33","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-149.32.192.33-2010-08-10T15:11:00.000Z-Employment_Opportunities_for_MA's_and_PhD's_in_the_field_of_Sociology_and_Field","replies":[]}}-->

I've sketched some ideas for the third newsletter, which I'd like to get ready before the end of the year. Please discuss them here. In particular, if anybody would like to write something for the newsletter, easing my workload, this would be nice; further, comments on competition and barnstar wouldn't be amiss. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:40, 10 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-10T16:40:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2010-08-10T16:40:00.000Z-Newsletter_III_-_ideas","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

The Toilet paper orientation which is tagged as of interest to this project is undergoing a GA Review. The review is on hold for seven days to allow issues to be dealt with. The issues are explained at Talk:Toilet paper orientation/GA1. SilkTork *^YES! 11:51, 13 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T11:51:00.000Z","author":"SilkTork","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SilkTork-2010-08-13T11:51:00.000Z-Toilet_paper_orientation_GA_Review","replies":[]}}-->

I have nominated Max Weber for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Tom B (talk) 18:33, 14 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-14T18:33:00.000Z","author":"Tpbradbury","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tpbradbury-2010-08-14T18:33:00.000Z-Max_Weber_-_Featured_article_review","replies":[],"displayName":"Tom B"}}-->

I wonder if any other members of this project are right now in Atlanta for the ASA conference? If so, perhaps we could meet on Monday or Tuseday? My Skype is listed on my userpage, and you can email me your phone numbers, too. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:29, 16 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-16T00:29:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2010-08-16T00:29:00.000Z-ASA_Atlanta_conference_-_opportunity_for_wikimeetup?","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

There’s a good number of people, e.g. Kww (talk), Tim Vickers (talk), Coren (talk), among many others, who have expressed desire to have me permanently banned from Wikipedia for writing on the subject of the “human molecule”, efforts of which resulted in a one year ban on me, back in 2007. To exemplify one objection, as expressed by Coren earlier this year: “You seem to ignore, Mr Thims, that Wikipedia is not the proper venue to document your novel theories.” The central problem here is that this is not “my novel theory”; but rather the theory dates back over two hundred years, with over ninety different people publishing content on this subject:

• HMS pioneers

There have been at least six books written on the subject, one painting, four aluminum Molecule Man statues (one 100-foot tall), movie mentions, articles, over a dozen videos, many debates, posters, as well as college courses (dating back to 1894) taught utilizing the human molecule perspective as a basis. What seems to be the case is that either: (a) I have been mis-labeled as an editor with aims of self-promotion over that of an editor with a genuine interest in a subject (that very few people write on or know about); or (b) the subject is an anathema to many editors (and as such are using the various bylaws of Wikipedia in their favor to block the subject from Wikipedia)? To give a bit of history of my failed efforts to write neutral overview article on the subject:

What I am looking for, at this point, being that there obviously exists some form admitable of conflict of interest (being that I wrote a history book on the subject of the human molecule in 2008 and that I seem to be one of only three people, including Robert Sterner and James Elser (2000), who have every made an attempt at the calculation of the molecular formula for one person), is for a minimum of about two or three neutral volunteer editors to write up a one page article (or even stub paragraph) on the subject of the “human molecule” (encompassing its derivative terms human atom, social atom, human chemical, human element, etc.), and I will confide my contributions or guidance of the article to the talk page. The topic, to note, is very controversial being that it is at odds with many cherished theories, particularly those of religion as well as many secular theories, such as life, free will, choice, purpose, etc.

My interest in having a Wikipedia article on this subject is so that children, age 15 or younger, will know that there is an alternative viewpoint out there on what it means to be a “human” (in contrast to the dogma of outdated subjects such as religion or other secular philosophies), and that this subject has been tossed around for at least 200-years now. At a minimum I would like to see:

(a) the mention that French philosopher Jean Sales (friend of Voltaire) coined the term in 1789 as follows: "we conclude that there exists a principle of the human body which comes from the great process in which so many millions of atoms of the earth become many millions of human molecules."

(b) the Sterner-Elser 2002 published calculation for the empirical molecular formula for one “human molecule”, as found in their Ecological Stoichiometry textbook, where they define a human (a publication which has been cited over 750-times): ^[1]

${\displaystyle H_{375,000,000}O_{132,000,000}C_{85,700,000}N_{6,430,000}Ca_{1,500,000}P_{1,020,000}S_{206,000}Na_{183,000}\,}$

${\displaystyle K_{177,000}C_{l127,000}Mg_{40,000}Si_{38,600}Fe_{2,680}Zn_{2,110}Cu_{76}I_{14}Mn_{13}F_{13}Cr_{7}Se_{4}Mo_{3}Co_{1}\,}$

It is my view that the ban of this topic from Wikipedia is equivalent to the hysteria that results in acts of book burning of olden days or the inquisitions of Galileo for believing in the work of Copernicus. As Physchim62 (talk) put in on 11 Jun 2010 "It seems like the witch hunt is still on, more than eighteen months after the original events". I would like to think that there are more than myself and Physchim62 amenable to having a short stub article on the subject of the human defined atomically. I will post this help-message on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics and Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry talk pages. Comments welcome. --Libb Thims (talk) 19:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T19:23:00.000Z","author":"Libb Thims","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Libb_Thims-2010-08-25T19:23:00.000Z-WP:COI:_volunteers_needed","replies":["c-WeijiBaikeBianji-2010-08-25T22:34:00.000Z-Libb_Thims-2010-08-25T19:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Do you have any idea how out of touch with all Wikipedia core principles your request sounds? Wikipedia has to be about mainstream topics covered in reliable sources—that is what Wikipedia is all about. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 22:34, 25 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T22:34:00.000Z","author":"WeijiBaikeBianji","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WeijiBaikeBianji-2010-08-25T22:34:00.000Z-Libb_Thims-2010-08-25T19:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Libb_Thims-2010-08-26T14:28:00.000Z-WeijiBaikeBianji-2010-08-25T22:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

A topic over 220-years old, with seven books written on it, that is taught in modern universities is “out of touch with Wikipedia core principles”? Let me summarize some of the usage in sociology, as the above link touches on: American sociologist Henry Carey’s three-volume 1858 treatise, specifically defines the subject of social science as the study of “man, the molecule of society”; Thomas Huxley theorized in 1871 of how society as a whole is a social molecule; German physician Ernst Gryzanowski in 1875 defined a society as “a social body consisting of human molecules” and argued that there is no reason why the methods of physical science should not be applied to the statics and dynamics of that society”; Henry Adams, in 1885, specifically defined “social chemistry as the study of the attraction [and repulsion] of equivalent 'human molecules'; etc, etc.; a more recent would be American sociologist Robert Nisbet, who in 1970 wrote an entire book on the view of “people to be ‘elementary human particles’, refers to the adhesion between two human particles as a ‘social bond’, and the attachment of two or more human particles to be a ‘social molecule’. Many more examples are listed in the table. I fail to see why this subject should be banned from WikiProject Sociology? --Libb Thims (talk) 14:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T14:28:00.000Z","author":"Libb Thims","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Libb_Thims-2010-08-26T14:28:00.000Z-WeijiBaikeBianji-2010-08-25T22:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Libb_Thims-2010-08-27T18:22:00.000Z-Libb_Thims-2010-08-26T14:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

Per suggestion by Kww at the 27 Aug 2010 deletion review, I have initiated an incubator space page: Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Human molecule. I will work on developing a cogent acceptable article over the next week or so. Feel free to contribute with objections or suggestions. Thanks. --Libb Thims (talk) 18:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-27T18:22:00.000Z","author":"Libb Thims","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Libb_Thims-2010-08-27T18:22:00.000Z-Libb_Thims-2010-08-26T14:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The Arbitration Commmittee case on race and intelligence has just been decided. Thus articles that are either in the Race and intelligence controversy category or mentioned in the findings of the 2010 Arbitration Committee case on Race and intelligence or closely related to those are subject to active arbitration remedies that you may wish to review. The case decision seems to have resulted in an immediate improvement in the editing environment of several articles that previously were very contentious. Peaceful, collaborative editing that turns to sources and upholds Wikipedia policy is enjoyable editing. I thought I should let participants on this WikiProject Sociology know that this improved atmosphere now exists, because some of the articles related to that case have long been marked as part of this project. Your participation in editing those articles is welcomed and encouraged. You can look up sources to help improve articles in the source lists I have been compiling to share with all Wikipedians. And because the source lists span several different topics, and those topics fit quite a few articles in this WikiProject in whole or in part, suggesting new sources would be a very kind thing to do. The atmosphere has improved a lot, so the articles can improve a lot. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 02:09, 28 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-28T02:09:00.000Z","author":"WeijiBaikeBianji","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WeijiBaikeBianji-2010-08-28T02:09:00.000Z-Notice_of_ArbCom_decision_on_Race_and_intelligence_and_related_articles","replies":["c-WeijiBaikeBianji-2011-01-04T02:23:00.000Z-WeijiBaikeBianji-2010-08-28T02:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll renew here the invitation for knowledgeable editors to join in on watching and improving the articles in the scope of the case decided in August 2010. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 02:23, 4 January 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-04T02:23:00.000Z","author":"WeijiBaikeBianji","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WeijiBaikeBianji-2011-01-04T02:23:00.000Z-WeijiBaikeBianji-2010-08-28T02:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Could you please contribute with your opinion to this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Talk:LGBT_parenting/FAQ Thank you! --Destinero (talk) 16:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-30T16:05:00.000Z","author":"Destinero","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Destinero-2010-08-30T16:05:00.000Z-LGBT_parenting","replies":[]}}-->

I searched the word Diaspora after reading "Somebody knows my name" by L. Hill. Great epic novel. It took me into myself and my culture and the question that haunted me was" Who am I? What is my identity? As immigrants of Haiti from th 60's, I [we] still have an emotional and sentimental connection with the country, it is our land, our place of beginning, the home of our ancestors and the essence of our purpose. After 45 years in the US I dont see myself going back home to retire in Haiti. ON the other hand, I am not accepted in the US and will never feel that I belong. I am an immigrant, I am a foreigner, I speak a different language, in fact 2 other languages that are foreign to this country and I love Haitian food, Haitian music and must speak Haitian when I get the opportunity.

I am glad to read that others have contributed and suggested the addition of Haitian diaspora. It came to my attention not long ago that being referred to as a Diaspora was an insult. It meant that you were a traitor, a deserter, and one who no longer had the right to participate in the discussion of Haitian affairs. I strongly disagree. My own kind isolates me and I never got adopted by the US. It can be confusing and complicated.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrigaud (talk • contribs) 13:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-02T13:54:00.000Z","author":"Mrigaud","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mrigaud-2010-09-02T13:54:00.000Z-Diaspora_and_Haitian","replies":[]}}-->

I've made a start on a Social movements portal. Your input is welcome... Johnfos (talk) 06:31, 18 September 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-18T06:31:00.000Z","author":"Johnfos","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Johnfos-2010-09-18T06:31:00.000Z-Portal:Social_movements","replies":["c-Piotrus-2010-09-18T14:53:00.000Z-Johnfos-2010-09-18T06:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Great! May I invite you to Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology/Social movements task force? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 14:53, 18 September 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-18T14:53:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2010-09-18T14:53:00.000Z-Johnfos-2010-09-18T06:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Johnfos-2010-09-18T19:04:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-09-18T14:53:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Thanks, have signed up! Wasn't aware of this task force until now... Johnfos (talk) 19:04, 18 September 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-18T19:04:00.000Z","author":"Johnfos","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Johnfos-2010-09-18T19:04:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-09-18T14:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

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• Witt v. Department of the Air Force

Please see Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Witt_v._Department_of_the_Air_Force. -- Cirt (talk) 21:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-24T21:43:00.000Z","author":"Cirt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cirt-2010-09-24T21:43:00.000Z-In_the_news_-_suggestion","replies":[]}}-->

I am proposing that the dates on the Generation X page be changed from 1961-1981 to the early 1960's to the early 1980s which gives a range of years but not specific because the years are still in dispute. Please write if you agree or disagree and provide a brief reason and note any sources if you would like. Please no aruging. I appreciate your assistance. Educatedlady (talk) 19:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-25T19:59:00.000Z","author":"Educatedlady","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Educatedlady-2010-09-25T19:59:00.000Z-Please_Join_Proposed_Consensus_on_Generation_X_talk_page","replies":[]}}-->

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Generation_X

Someone who understands might wish to look at Normal type (and possibly Ideal type) with a view to editing them such that average mortals can understand what the hell they're all about. See also this question on the refdesks. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:09, 28 September 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-28T00:09:00.000Z","author":"Tagishsimon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tagishsimon-2010-09-28T00:09:00.000Z-Normal_Type,_Ideal_Type","replies":["c-Michael_Hardy-2010-09-28T20:42:00.000Z-Tagishsimon-2010-09-28T00:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Also see my question on the article's talk page: talk:normal type. Michael Hardy (talk) 20:42, 28 September 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-28T20:42:00.000Z","author":"Michael Hardy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Michael_Hardy-2010-09-28T20:42:00.000Z-Tagishsimon-2010-09-28T00:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Regarding the ideal type, I find the first para ("An ideal type is formed...") relatively helpful. The rest... too much jargon, certainly. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 21:27, 28 September 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-28T21:27:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2010-09-28T21:27:00.000Z-Normal_Type,_Ideal_Type","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Hi guys, I just want to inform you that the abovementioned list was recently created. I've just wikified and formatted it, but it only covers the situation in some English-speaking countries (Australia, Canada, Ireland, UK, USA). So, maybe there are some editors out here with insight on the situation elsewhere? Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 18:44, 7 October 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-07T18:44:00.000Z","author":"Per aspera ad Astra","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Per_aspera_ad_Astra-2010-10-07T18:44:00.000Z-List_of_volunteer_awards","replies":[]}}-->

Please visit eHarmony's discussion page for a discussion regarding the use of a citation that is critical of eHarmony. Some feel that it is a commentary by a notable competitor and should be presented as such, but others consider it too biased to be reliable. Shawnc (talk) 07:20, 11 October 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-11T07:20:00.000Z","author":"Shawnc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shawnc-2010-10-11T07:20:00.000Z-Request_for_comment","replies":[]}}-->

I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 19:55, 7 November 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-07T19:55:00.000Z","author":"Svick","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Svick-2010-11-07T19:55:00.000Z-WikiProject_cleanup_listing","replies":[]}}-->

A discussion has begun about whether the article Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System, which is relevant to the subject of this WikiProject, should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System until a consensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion.

Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 18:33, 11 November 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-11T18:33:00.000Z","author":"Cirt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cirt-2010-11-11T18:33:00.000Z-Nomination_of_Werner_Erhard_vs._Columbia_Broadcasting_System_for_deletion","replies":[]}}-->

If someone has the book Goffman, Erving; Lemert, Charles; Branaman, Ann (1997). The Goffman reader. Wiley-Blackwell. ISBN 1557868948., please take a look at its pages lvi-lvii and copy further information for 6. Disruption of usual relations of individual actor and his acts and other processes of mortification of self that have not yet been described in the article Total institution. The necessary information is not seen through Google Books. Psychiatrick (talk) 22:34, 16 November 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-16T22:34:00.000Z","author":"Psychiatrick","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Psychiatrick-2010-11-16T22:34:00.000Z-Total_institution","replies":["c-Piotrus-2010-11-16T23:38:00.000Z-Psychiatrick-2010-11-16T22:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Just a technical note: the information should be rewritten, not copied. Copying information would be WP:COPYVIO. I'd also suggest you copy that note to the article's talk, many editors who may contribute to it may not even be aware of our wikiproject. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:38, 16 November 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-16T23:38:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2010-11-16T23:38:00.000Z-Psychiatrick-2010-11-16T22:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Psychiatrick-2010-11-17T08:37:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-11-16T23:38:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

I suppose one can also cite some relevant passages from the book on the talk page to rewrite and insert them into the article later. Psychiatrick (talk) 08:37, 17 November 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-17T08:37:00.000Z","author":"Psychiatrick","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Psychiatrick-2010-11-17T08:37:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-11-16T23:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

What happened after welfare reform? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.128.19.234 (talk) 22:25, 18 November 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-18T22:25:00.000Z","author":"167.128.19.234","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-167.128.19.234-2010-11-18T22:25:00.000Z-Welfare_Reform","replies":[]}}-->

Please see my question here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:13, 29 November 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-11-29T17:13:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2010-11-29T17:13:00.000Z-National_costume_vs_folk_costume","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

The existing page for Housing Discrimination only has a few short sentences written on the subject. I feel that although its brevity might serve to be able to address housing discrimination on more general terms, I have opted to write an article specifically on housing discrimination in the U.S. in order to delve further into the subject. I also noted that the existing article states that housing discrimination was made illegal in the U.S. by the Fair Housing Act, but does not at all address the controversy surrounding its possible modern-day existence. I feel that comprehension of this controversy, which I will address in my article, is crucial to an understanding of today’s social geography in the U.S.--Loretteb (talk) 19:05, 6 December 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-06T19:05:00.000Z","author":"Loretteb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Loretteb-2010-12-06T19:05:00.000Z-New_Housing_Discrimination_Page","replies":["c-Mctilghman-2011-09-20T04:32:00.000Z-Loretteb-2010-12-06T19:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

I believe that the US housing discrimination article should be merged with the larger residential segregation article. Indeed, the article itself seems lacking, even as a portal for more information on specific terms and types. The article itself seems to lack a coherent set of statistics of Housing Discrimination in the United States, as well as a requisite amount of current examples. Additionally, geographic trends and breakdowns by area would be most helpful. Mctilghman (talk) 04:32, 20 September 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-20T04:32:00.000Z","author":"Mctilghman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mctilghman-2011-09-20T04:32:00.000Z-Loretteb-2010-12-06T19:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I am assuming this discussion concerns Housing discrimination and Housing discrimination (United States). The parent article is a poor stub, the subarticle is much more developed. I am not sure if the merger would be helpful, but a proper summary section would be much appreciated. What the parent really needs is a proper expansion. I'd suggest copying any specific review suggestions to the relevant article's talk pages, as it is unlikely editors interested in editing them will stumble upon our discussion here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:51, 20 September 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-20T15:51:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-09-20T15:51:00.000Z-New_Housing_Discrimination_Page","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evolutionism (2nd nomination), since the article is of interest to this project. Steve Dufour (talk) 02:18, 9 December 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-09T02:18:00.000Z","author":"Steve Dufour","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Steve_Dufour-2010-12-09T02:18:00.000Z-AfD","replies":[]}}-->

The residential segregation page was lacking several things, the most important of which was a discussion of why residential segregation is important to study and solutions to help minimize residential segregation. I’ve added these two sections and cleaned up a few other areas, but the article is still noticeably missing evidence for how residential segregation affects countries other than the United States.

(Tnfranklin (talk) 17:45, 13 December 2010 (UTC))__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-13T17:45:00.000Z","author":"Tnfranklin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tnfranklin-2010-12-13T17:45:00.000Z-Residential_Segregation","replies":[]}}-->

Hopefully soon we will be getting them at Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology/Article alerts. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 01:09, 22 December 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-22T01:09:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2010-12-22T01:09:00.000Z-Article_alerts","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Please feel free to comment on it here. I've also contacted all editors who have sociology-related userboxes but are not our project members, and invited them to join. It would be nice to see this project look more alive :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 13:26, 26 December 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-26T13:26:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2010-12-26T13:26:00.000Z-III_Newsletter_is_out","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Members of this project may be interested in participating in this discussion about recent changes to the globalization article. Your input would be appreciated. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:30, 1 January 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-01T10:30:00.000Z","author":"Cordless Larry","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cordless_Larry-2011-01-01T10:30:00.000Z-Globalization","replies":[]}}-->

I nominated Breast cancer awareness for WP:Did you know yesterday. It might be chosen for the front page, and the hook I suggested links to Slacktivism, an article I think is probably within the scope of this project. I wanted to give you a 'heads-up' that it might be worth watchlisting the article, if it does get selected, since it's likely to get more attention than usual if it's linked on the front page. Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:53, 2 January 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-02T17:53:00.000Z","author":"WhatamIdoing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-2011-01-02T17:53:00.000Z-DYK","replies":[]}}-->

I've just stumbled upon this amusing wiki essay... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 21:15, 10 January 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-10T21:15:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-01-10T21:15:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Sociology_of_Wikipedia_via_Rorty_and_Berger","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

[http://www.12-12-12_official_endtimes_page@yahoogroups.com www. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.27.209.109 (talk) 08:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-23T08:14:00.000Z","author":"97.27.209.109","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-97.27.209.109-2011-01-23T08:14:00.000Z-12-12-12","replies":[]}}-->

I know basically nothing about sociology, but I'm hoping that someone who does can take a look at Upper class. It's one of the messiest and most incomprehensible articles on a major subject that I've seen in a while, and it looks like it's been that way for a while. - Mgcsinc (talk) 20:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-26T20:29:00.000Z","author":"Mgcsinc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mgcsinc-2011-01-26T20:29:00.000Z-Urgent_attention_request:_Upper_class","replies":[]}}-->

On the subject of meetups, is anybody going to ESS 2011? I started a subsection for it in our meetup section here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-27T20:14:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-01-27T20:14:00.000Z-ESS_2011_in_Philadelphia","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Additional input is needed over at Talk:Diaspora on what is devolving into a very unproductive conversation about the lead. Basically, due to two related AfDs there has been spill over to this entry with the basic definition of the concept now being contested.Griswaldo (talk) 19:52, 22 February 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-22T19:52:00.000Z","author":"Griswaldo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Griswaldo-2011-02-22T19:52:00.000Z-Talk:Diaspora","replies":[]}}-->

I will shortly be merging the tarot cards into their suits and I am trying to contact the interested parties for comment. Since you have the Tarot page marked I am including this projectTetron76 (talk) 12:43, 5 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-05T12:43:00.000Z","author":"Tetron76","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tetron76-2011-03-05T12:43:00.000Z-Merge_of_Tarot_Cards","replies":["c-DarwinPeacock-2011-03-05T20:53:00.000Z-Tetron76-2011-03-05T12:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

I don't know which pages you are referring to exactly, but I don't think Tarot fits under "sociology" any more than any other sphere of human activity does (e.g., just about every page on Wikipedia.) I'd feel pretty safe saying that they should be removed from the sociology category. DarwinPeacock (talk) 20:53, 5 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-05T20:53:00.000Z","author":"DarwinPeacock","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DarwinPeacock-2011-03-05T20:53:00.000Z-Tetron76-2011-03-05T12:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Psychological/medical sources are usually used to identify serial killers, with the occasional exception of law enforcement. Generally, news sources are not the best sources to use for a topic such as this, per Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources#News organizations. Yet, the section in question uses news sources and writers. The first source in the section already inaccurately describes two people as serial killers. The editor who added the section, however, feels that the section should stay because it is "verifiable." The question is...whether or not this editor's sources should be considered good enough simply because they are "verifiable."

Opinions are definitely needed on this matter. Flyer22 (talk) 02:23, 6 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-06T02:23:00.000Z","author":"Flyer22","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Flyer22-2011-03-06T02:23:00.000Z-Talk:Serial_killer#African_American_serial_killers","replies":[]}}-->

Recent changes were made to citations templates (such as {{citation}}, {{cite journal}}, {{cite web}}...). In addition to what was previously supported (bibcode, doi, jstor, isbn, ...), templates now support arXiv, ASIN, JFM, LCCN, MR, OL, OSTI, RFC, SSRN and Zbl. Before, you needed to place |id={{arxiv|0123.4567}} (or worse |url=http://arxiv.org/abs/0123.4567), now you can simply use |arxiv=0123.4567, likewise for |id={{JSTOR|0123456789}} and |url=http://www.jstor.org/stable/0123456789 → |jstor=0123456789.

The full list of supported identifiers is given here (with dummy values):

• {{cite journal |author=John Smith |year=2000 |title=How to Put Things into Other Things |journal=Journal of Foobar |volume=1 |issue=2 |pages=3–4 |arxiv=0123456789 |asin=0123456789 |bibcode=0123456789 |doi=0123456789 |jfm=0123456789 |jstor=0123456789 |lccn=0123456789 |isbn=0123456789 |issn=0123456789 |mr=0123456789 |oclc=0123456789 |ol=0123456789 |osti=0123456789 |rfc=0123456789 |pmc=0123456789 |pmid=0123456789 |ssrn=0123456789 |zbl=0123456789 |id={{para|id|____}} }}

Obviously not all citations needs all parameters, but this streamlines the most popular ones and gives both better metadata and better appearances when printed. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 03:20, 8 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-08T03:20:00.000Z","author":"Headbomb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Headbomb-2011-03-08T03:20:00.000Z-Citation_templates_now_support_more_identifiers","replies":[]}}-->

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Asian American#Asian American Femininity. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 12:20, 9 March 2011 (UTC) (Using {{pls}})__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-09T12:20:00.000Z","author":"RightCowLeftCoast","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RightCowLeftCoast-2011-03-09T12:20:00.000Z-Discussion_at_Talk:Asian_American#Asian_American_Femininity","replies":[]}}-->

I've finished major work on this article. Before a WP:GA nomination, I'd like to invite interested projects to do a B-class review. Please post any reviews on the article's talk page. I'd appreciate any assistance with prose copy-editing (I am not a native speaker of English). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:21, 9 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-09T23:21:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-03-09T23:21:00.000Z-B-class_review_request:_Karl_Marx","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

and proposals being discussed there for a potential merged or more general additional article on US civilian aiport security regulation issues and public reactions, perspectives on and by foreign travelers, sociology, law, cultural phenomenology, and international context. The later detection of Fukushima radiation at US airports, which is not yet mentioned in this article, is also being discussed as a subtopic to be added into a general article. Separately from the 'criiticms' subsection on the US Transportation Security Administration alone.

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don't touch my junk is a second related AfD regarding another article which also presents a US airport bodily search protest.

A potential general article not only on protest but on efficacy, social context, and events which are of national and international note in these regards would also include breaking 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami and Fukushima I nuclear accidents news such as Japan radiation sets off O'Hare airport alarms -- CBS News Chicago station reports trace amounts of radiation clinging to flights from country ravaged by earthquake, tsunami:

"Trace amounts of radiation from Japan have been detected in Chicago, CBS News station WBBM-TV reports.

Travelers coming in from Japan on Wednesday triggered radiation detectors at O'Hare International Airport as they passed through customs. Only very small amounts of radiation were detected.

...Feds move more radiation monitors to West Coast...

"We are aware of the radiation," said Chicago Aviation Department spokeswoman Karen Pride. "We are adding screenings and precautionary measures."

...Radiation was also found in luggage and on passengers on flights from Japan.

Mayor Richard M. Daley and other city officials wouldn't provide any additional details, saying federal authorities were handling the situation.

"Of course the protection of the person coming off the plane is important in regards to any radiation and especially within their families," Daley said at an unrelated event." [more at] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Tobey [and in the original CBS article March 17, 2011]. - Pandelver (talk) 20:19, 18 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-18T20:19:00.000Z","author":"Pandelver","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pandelver-2011-03-18T20:19:00.000Z-Please_review_Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Aaron_Tobey_which_concerns_Aaron_T","replies":[]}}-->

The Poverty and Poverty reduction articles overlap in much of the strategic information presented in the latter page. Therefore, the section on poverty reduction on the Poverty page will be shortened substantially to simple summaries of each topic area. Furthermore, the Poverty reduction page should contain information concerning the empowerment of women, as the Poverty page originally suggested. A new section titled “Empowering Women” will be added to the “Poverty reduction” page. These are all proposed changes that should occur within the next two months. - Valerie.H.Le (talk) 08:18, 28 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-28T08:18:00.000Z","author":"Valerie.H.Le","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Valerie.H.Le-2011-03-28T08:18:00.000Z-Proposed_Deletion_of_Poverty_Overlaps","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-03-30T03:10:00.000Z-Valerie.H.Le-2011-03-28T08:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sounds good (per WP:SUMMARY). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 03:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-30T03:10:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-03-30T03:10:00.000Z-Valerie.H.Le-2011-03-28T08:18:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

I am creating an entry on “Household Bargaining,” which will specifically explore the subject of gender relations in intra-household bargaining and decision-making. Wikipedia currently has articles on Bargaining and Inequality of Bargaining Power but these articles only address bargaining in terms of the economic, labor and/or global market, and they fail to acknowledge the role bargaining plays within a household. Due to the market focus of these articles, an examination of traditional gender inequalities of intra-household bargaining is not evident in any Wikipedia entry I have come across. Additionally, the Family Economics Wikipedia entry is rather lacking in substance and does not address this subject at all.

The inspiration for this entry comes from Bina Agarwal's work in feminist economics and her study on intra-household bargaining[1], yet the existing entry for Agarwal does not substantially address this important subject.

I wanted to consult with the members of the Sociology WikiProject before creating this entry, because I have a few questions about the subject. I was planning on making an entirely new entry instead of including it in the Bargaining and Inequality of Bargaining Power pages because they seem to be rather market-oriented, while this subject falls slightly outside of the arena of traditional economics and more in the discipline of sociology, but does anyone think I should do otherwise? Does anyone have thoughts on this subject or suggestions for related sources? Mfandersen (talk) 02:04, 30 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-30T02:04:00.000Z","author":"Mfandersen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mfandersen-2011-03-30T02:04:00.000Z-Household_Bargaining","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-03-30T03:10:00.000Z-Mfandersen-2011-03-30T02:04:00.000Z","c-Mfandersen-2011-03-30T03:30:00.000Z-Mfandersen-2011-03-30T02:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

I am afraid this is not my area of expertise, but it does sound quite important with regards to economics. Be bold and create the article, but do post your question (or link it) from WP:ECONOMICS. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 03:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-30T03:10:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-03-30T03:10:00.000Z-Mfandersen-2011-03-30T02:04:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Thanks for the suggestion. I have already proposed the topic in the Economics WikiProject and am waiting for some feedback there as well. Mfandersen (talk) 03:30, 30 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-30T03:30:00.000Z","author":"Mfandersen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mfandersen-2011-03-30T03:30:00.000Z-Mfandersen-2011-03-30T02:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The notion !

!!!!! You cannot be everything to every one, but you can be something to a few, what is more valuable, something to a few, being more manageable to most, WWG-(world wide government)- all amount to global intervention, accounting for MULTI.......diversity, comprehension and adversity! Cultural differences, acceptance and common understanding. Virtually, for the best part of principle, partition is sustainably, not for a governing few but for a party that stagnates affirmation. All independence is résumés for apartheid, before value came opinion before opinion came congress!! Establishmentarianism, an opinion of the few, from the few, for the few. A world without the few is kayos of opinion, keeping in mind who holds this concept. In-relation to parliamentarianism and independence, gaining apartheid through governance and objecting to how the minority tries to obtain the principle of opinion, without management of the few, opinion belongs to the majority. The minority-The few are tyrants of opinion and independence is not to there availing but to their dis-advantage and education of principle and structure within society/and or belongs to totalitarianism!!-! A determined status within the majority. This is shaded, controlled, umbrelled and disseminated to parties with the common opinion on how the control of educated should be filtered down, within their perception an educated holds the same concept of what shall be in principle and status. Try to understand the view of a blind person, all he knows is the opinion of someone who can see which determines what they believe is right, which polarises their existence unknowingly. Pluralism- Religion, sectarianism and racism diverse in their own rights and tools of control within society, main stream or functional both serve a purpose of partition and subjectivism. The subversive nature of culture which is man made and the natural development of society can only become conflictual in the light of democracy, when the minority establishes control of the principles of opinion. This is not the meaning of permeation or revolution but the understanding of conflicting demands, among those that believe in change, shall not benefit all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.41.222.165 (talk) 21:31, 2 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-02T21:31:00.000Z","author":"92.41.222.165","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-92.41.222.165-2011-04-02T21:31:00.000Z-The_Notion_-!-","replies":[]}}-->

Both Karl Marx and Émile Durkheim could use a B-class review (I cannot do so since I wrote most of them). Also, both of them could use GA review, too :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:18, 8 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-08T17:18:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-04-08T17:18:00.000Z-B-class_review_(Marx,_Durkheim)","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Race and intelligence is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Race and intelligence(3rd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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RAMACHANDRA EDUCATIONAL AND SPORTS TRUST

Ramachandra educational and sports trust is a non governmental organization has educated and empowered underprivileged children from urban slums in Tamil nadu as well as to improve the sports performance by providing best infrastructure to students to show their excellence. Our mission is not only to sponsor children’s education and sports but also support them till they are gainfully employed. REST is a growing organization in every way: we began in 2009. Now we are planning to construct the school to promote education and sports that every child at REST gets an all round development programmed that ensures every Childs physical, mental and emotional Wellness. Our trust has played pioneering role in changing the traditional ideas of dominant trust into self independence CONTACT US ADDRESS:

RAMACHANDRA EDUCATIONAL AND SPORTS TRUST 292,TNHB COLONY POTHAPURAM(PO) KRISHNAGIRI(DT) TAMIL NADU INDIA CELL NO : 09787192807 EMAIL: sweetestchandran@gmail.com WEBSITE: restservingsociety.hpage.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.211.86.170 (talk) 08:21, 10 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-10T08:21:00.000Z","author":"117.211.86.170","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-117.211.86.170-2011-05-10T08:21:00.000Z-RAMACHANDRA_EDUCATIONAL_AND_SPORTS_TRUST","replies":[]}}-->

As a student of sociology, I am frequently asked if I intend to be a social worker when I finish my studies. I wondered if there could be a sentence added to the wiki Sociology page stating that Sociology and Social policy are two different areas of study? I know it's just a small thing, but it may help others unfamiliar with sociological studies differentiate between the two? Also perhaps a paragraph explaining the difference between Sociology and Psychology may be helpful as well, as through conversations I’ve had with non Sociology students, none seem to understand the difference. I dare not add anything of this nature myself, as I am still a learner and feel there are more qualified individuals who can add/remove content on this page. Thanks :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Swabgib (talk • contribs) 20:29, 12 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-12T20:29:00.000Z","author":"Swabgib","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Swabgib-2011-05-12T20:29:00.000Z-Sociology_is_NOT_Social_policy!!!!","replies":[]}}-->

Santorum (sexual neologism)

This article has recently been expanded with additional sources and referencing improvements. There is also some ongoing discussion about that, at the article's talk page. If you are interested, please have a look at Santorum (sexual neologism) and the associated talk page discussion at Talk:Santorum (sexual neologism). Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 20:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-13T20:51:00.000Z","author":"Cirt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cirt-2011-05-13T20:51:00.000Z-Santorum_(sexual_neologism)","replies":[]}}-->

The navigational template {{Political neologisms}} has been nominated for deletion. Please see discussion, at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2011_May_25#Template:Political_neologisms. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 17:53, 26 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-26T17:53:00.000Z","author":"Cirt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cirt-2011-05-26T17:53:00.000Z-Politics_related_navigational_template_nominated_for_deletion","replies":[]}}-->

Social identity, which was improved earlier this year by an educational project, is part of the Good Article backlog. To review it, follow the instructions at WP:GAC. Thanks, MartinPoulter (talk) 13:16, 30 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-30T13:16:00.000Z","author":"MartinPoulter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MartinPoulter-2011-05-30T13:16:00.000Z-Good_Article_reviewer_sought_for_Social_identity","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-05-30T14:04:00.000Z-MartinPoulter-2011-05-30T13:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

I already posted on talk that the article has insufficient reference density. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 14:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-30T14:04:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-05-30T14:04:00.000Z-MartinPoulter-2011-05-30T13:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-06-11T03:03:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-05-30T14:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

And now I've begun the proper review, sadly, not seeing any activity on the talk page or elsewhere to address my concern. Well, at least it will clear the GAN backlog one way or the other... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 03:03, 11 June 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-11T03:03:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-06-11T03:03:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-05-30T14:04:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

As previously discussed, I believe the furry fandom article does not give due weight to the sexual nature of the furry fandom as its prime aspect. A master's thesis on the psychology/sociology of furries (Morgan, Matt (2008-03-25). "Creature Comfort: Anthropomorphism, Sexuality, and Revitalization in The Furry Fandom".) and a master's thesis on the literary output of the furry fandom and two others (Eric Stephen Altman (May 2010). "Posthum/an/ous: Identity, Imagination, and The Internet" (PDF).), were both rejected for not meeting Wikipedia's reliability guidelines. The sociology paper concludes that sexuality is the key aspect of its subjects' affinity to furry fandom, and the literary paper notes the vast, dominant amounts of erotica in the fandom. As it stands, the article gives me the impression of a public-relations piece, and not an encyclopedic article. The obvious solution is to find peer-reviewed papers to support the above claims, but I can't offer any.

Any input on the subject will be greatly appreciated. -Furry-friend (talk) 01:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-31T01:58:00.000Z","author":"Furry-friend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Furry-friend-2011-05-31T01:58:00.000Z-Assistance_request:_furry_fandom","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-05-31T02:47:00.000Z-Furry-friend-2011-05-31T01:58:00.000Z","c-GreenReaper-2011-05-31T19:13:00.000Z-Furry-friend-2011-05-31T01:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Can you find sources other than master thesis? Literature they cite may be more reliable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 02:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-31T02:47:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-05-31T02:47:00.000Z-Furry-friend-2011-05-31T01:58:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

The most likely reason that you cannot find peer-reviewed papers to support your point of view (that the primary aspect of furry fandom is a "sexual nature") is that it is not accurate.

The second thesis cited - the first is not publicly-available - does not support this conclusion either:

The Furries, as stated above, are a fandom that centers around the attraction towards the perceived personality and positive traits of an anthropomorphized animal avatar.

The members of the Furry fandom maintain and nurture an interest for most commonly either cartoon or real animals and create anthropomorphized, animalistic characters, avatars, as a way to interact and relate to one another.

Furry erotica certainly exists and is popular - especially on sites dedicated to fetishes (e.g. Eka's Portal, a vorarephilia fan site, referenced in the second thesis). The problem is this is true for most fan communities appealing to young adults. Concluding that such sexuality is "the point" of furry fandom makes about as much sense as taking the large amount of Star Trek slash out there and assuming that Trekkies primarily watch the show for the repressed sexual tension between Kirk and Spock. GreenReaper (talk) 19:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-31T19:13:00.000Z","author":"GreenReaper","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GreenReaper-2011-05-31T19:13:00.000Z-Furry-friend-2011-05-31T01:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-J\u00e9sk\u00e9_Couriano-2011-06-01T03:45:00.000Z-GreenReaper-2011-05-31T19:13:00.000Z","c-Furry-friend-2011-06-21T16:18:00.000Z-GreenReaper-2011-05-31T19:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

While it may seem that the furry fandom is overtly sexualized, that's only because of observer bias, not helped by Viacom or Vanity Fair. I know, off the top of my head, that at least one reporter that crashed a con looking for a steamy story was sorely disappointed by the lack of sex - and the only reason she was forced to crash it was because the fandom in and of itself is very media-shy because of the aforementioned Viacom and Vanity Fair. —Jeremy v^_^v ^{Components:V S M} 03:45, 1 June 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-01T03:45:00.000Z","author":"J\u00e9sk\u00e9 Couriano","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-J\u00e9sk\u00e9_Couriano-2011-06-01T03:45:00.000Z-GreenReaper-2011-05-31T19:13:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"M"}}-->

You could read on in the second thesis and see it does indeed point to explicit erotic literature as the dominant genre in the fandom. As for the first, it does conclude that the furry individual almost always uses childhood iconography as a means of sexual empowerment. I didn't come to argue; I came for assistance in supporting claims either way, because as it stands, the furry fandom article uses sources such as personal webpages, other wikis, and internet surveys. If anyone has better sources they would be very much appreciated. I am somewhat upset that a claim citing a personal webpage goes unchallenged, while an academic study that covers over a hundred interview subjects is removed on the basis that it's merely a master's thesis. -Furry-friend (talk) 16:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-21T16:18:00.000Z","author":"Furry-friend","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Furry-friend-2011-06-21T16:18:00.000Z-GreenReaper-2011-05-31T19:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-06-21T17:05:00.000Z-Furry-friend-2011-06-21T16:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

I don't know where the personal website claim is, but my suggestion is simple: try to improve the article to GA, and no unreliable sources I going to pass a good peer review. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:05, 21 June 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-21T17:05:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-06-21T17:05:00.000Z-Furry-friend-2011-06-21T16:18:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

The social integration article is essay-like. Improvement requested. FightingMac (talk) 04:19, 31 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-31T04:19:00.000Z","author":"FightingMac","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-FightingMac-2011-05-31T04:19:00.000Z-Social_integration","replies":["c-SunKing2-2011-08-10T01:06:00.000Z-FightingMac-2011-05-31T04:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

The social integration article could benefit from people looking for a way to improve the quality of Sociology articles. It has a high level of page views, and its current quality is fairly low for its popularity level. Maybe its warning headers should be changed into something that says "hey Wikipedians, fix me, I'm popular but need help", but I don't know which header that would be and I'm underqualified to contribute anything at all to the articleSunKing2 (talk) 01:06, 10 August 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-10T01:06:00.000Z","author":"SunKing2","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SunKing2-2011-08-10T01:06:00.000Z-FightingMac-2011-05-31T04:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Santorum (neologism)

Request for Comment discussion started, please see Talk:Santorum_(neologism)#Proposal_to_rename.2C_redirect.2C_and_merge_content.

Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 06:25, 4 June 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-04T06:25:00.000Z","author":"Cirt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cirt-2011-06-04T06:25:00.000Z-Request_for_comment_-_Santorum_(neologism)","replies":[]}}-->

This AfD needs people with subject knowledge. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Friends of organization. Trilliumz (talk) 01:57, 13 June 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-13T01:57:00.000Z","author":"Trilliumz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trilliumz-2011-06-13T01:57:00.000Z-AfD_for_\"Friends_of\"_organization","replies":[]}}-->

I've requested that we receive a report on new articles with keyword sociology, sociologist and sociological (see here for an example feed for Poland project). I'll update you and our page when it is live. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:01, 26 June 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-26T19:01:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-06-26T19:01:00.000Z-New_articles_notification_list","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

I am a sociology reseacher who is currently studying Generations X and Generation Y and common characteristics and inaccuracies as it relates to persons born in 1982. I am currently conducting a research study and require a maximum of 1000 participants born in 1982. For more information please see my talk page email genxstudy@ymail.com or visit my facebook "Like" page Persons born in 1982 needed for research study Thanks! —Preceding undated comment added 03:41, 27 June 2011 (UTC).

Anyone here willing to read or partially read through the long discussions about this and help out? Outside opinions are definitely needed. 209.226.31.161 (talk) 02:40, 3 July 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-07-03T02:40:00.000Z","author":"209.226.31.161","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-209.226.31.161-2011-07-03T02:40:00.000Z-Talk:Femininity#Definition_of_femininity","replies":[]}}-->

Readers of this page may be interested in a discussion at Talk:Pure blood theory in Korea#Requested move. Cheers. -GTBacchus^(talk) 23:04, 3 July 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-07-03T23:04:00.000Z","author":"GTBacchus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GTBacchus-2011-07-03T23:04:00.000Z-Naming_discussion_regarding_Korean_ethnicity_article","replies":[]}}-->

Prosocial behavior is at AfD. I've started to upgrade it from a school essay-- is it ready to go as is? The PsychWiki.com article is closer, but can't be copied. Anyone here who can help? Trilliumz (talk) 00:17, 4 August 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-04T00:17:00.000Z","author":"Trilliumz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trilliumz-2011-08-04T00:17:00.000Z-Prosocial_behavior_article_at_AfD","replies":[]}}-->

Will any members of this project, besides me, be attending it? There will be a Wikipedia booth, and ASA new president wants to cooperate with Wikipedia. It would be great if a group of WikiProject Sociology editors could meet there to facilitate Wikipedia-ASA partnership. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 15:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-04T15:43:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-08-04T15:43:00.000Z-ASA_annual_meeting_in_Las_Vegas","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Colleagues -- Articles on academic journals often show a kind of official abbreviation like Am. Sociol. Rev. and Admin. Sci. Q in the infobox. I've proposed that there be space for the abbreviations commonly used in the social sciences like ASR and ASQ. There is opposition to adding space for such acronyms, partly on the basis that they are not official and not informative. Your views are welcome at the proposal. -- Econterms (talk) 09:05, 5 August 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-05T09:05:00.000Z","author":"Econterms","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Econterms-2011-08-05T09:05:00.000Z-proposal_regarding_journal_abbreviations","replies":[]}}-->

Could editors with expertise in sociology please review Cage Painting Metaphor? There appears to be a great deal of [[WP:Original research] and WP:Synthesis in the article, and it's difficult to WP:Verify the references given. The article's creator appears to be the originator of the term: is the term notable, or is it a non-notable neologism per WP:NEO? Thanks for the help, Gurt Posh (talk) 23:07, 6 August 2011 (UTC) Not much left to review: "04:39, August 9, 2011 Athaenara (talk | contribs) deleted "Cage Painting Metaphor" ‎ (G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page)" --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:56, 20 September 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-06T23:07:00.000Z","author":"Gurt Posh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gurt_Posh-2011-08-06T23:07:00.000Z-Cage_Painting_Metaphor","replies":[]}}-->

I am thinking about redesinging the project's page to make it more user friendly. I am considering adopting layout elements from Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council , Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history , Wikipedia:WikiProject_Poland (this one was done by me) and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women's_History . Thoughts? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-20T15:55:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-09-20T15:55:00.000Z-Main_project_page_redesign","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-09-22T20:44:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-09-20T15:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

I will try to work on a draft at Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology/New main page. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 20:44, 22 September 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-22T20:44:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-09-22T20:44:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-09-20T15:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-10-06T18:37:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-09-22T20:44:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Draft 1 ready, any thoughts? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 18:37, 6 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-06T18:37:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-10-06T18:37:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-09-22T20:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-10-19T21:12:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-10-06T18:37:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Since I hear no objections (or comments of any kind, sadly), I am going to switch to my updated version now. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 21:12, 19 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-19T21:12:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-10-19T21:12:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-10-06T18:37:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Hi everyone, I have made a proposal over at the WikiProject Council to start WikiProject Applied Linguistics. I would be grateful to hear your thoughts about how this project might fit into the larger scheme of WikiProjects at Wikipedia. The proposal page can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/WikiProject Applied Linguistics. Thanks for your time. — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 04:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-24T04:39:00.000Z","author":"Mr. Stradivarius","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mr._Stradivarius-2011-09-24T04:39:00.000Z-Proposal_of_WikiProject_Applied_Linguistics","replies":["c-Mr._Stradivarius-2011-09-25T10:47:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2011-09-24T04:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

This proposal has been updated. The latest proposal is to convert the smaller daughter WikiProjects of WikiProject Linguistics into task forces. This could be relevant to articles related to sociolinguistics and applied linguistics, so any comments would be much appreciated. The new discussion can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics#RfC: Proposal to merge smaller daughter WikiProjects into WikiProject Linguistics. Regards — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 10:47, 25 September 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-25T10:47:00.000Z","author":"Mr. Stradivarius","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mr._Stradivarius-2011-09-25T10:47:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2011-09-24T04:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Did anyone here notice that List of important publications in sociology just got deleted? Does anyone care?  --Lambiam 21:03, 1 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-01T21:03:00.000Z","author":"Lambiam","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lambiam-2011-10-01T21:03:00.000Z-List_of_important_publications_in_sociology","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-10-02T01:54:00.000Z-Lambiam-2011-10-01T21:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hmmm, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of important publications in sociology seems like no consensus to me. I tend not to be fond of such ambiguous lists, how do we define "important"? Sure, some stuff we will all agree, but where to draw the line? Isn't all important stuff notable? If so, we have categories for that (Category:Sociology books and such]]). IF somebody cares, I'd suggest going to WP:Requests for undeletion. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 01:54, 2 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-02T01:54:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-10-02T01:54:00.000Z-Lambiam-2011-10-01T21:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lambiam-2011-10-02T13:48:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-10-02T01:54:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

The word important used not to be in the title, but was added to all "List of publications in ..." articles after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of publications in biology (2nd nomination) ruled that it had to be added to stave off deletion. The inclusion criterion used to be notability (i.e., good enough to have its own article), as it is for many other "List of" articles.  --Lambiam 13:48, 2 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-02T13:48:00.000Z","author":"Lambiam","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lambiam-2011-10-02T13:48:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-10-02T01:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-10-02T17:04:00.000Z-Lambiam-2011-10-02T13:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, it was a bad solution, but once again I don't believe such lists are helpful. Originally, was it supposed to list tens of thousands or more of the books and journal articles in the fields? How would we decide what to keep? I tend to dislike most wide lists - of publications, or individuals (List of Fooians), and such. I think categories do it much better. I guess we could have a list of sociology works with highest citation, and a clear cut off range, but keeping it up to date would be a hassle... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 17:04, 2 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-02T17:04:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-10-02T17:04:00.000Z-Lambiam-2011-10-02T13:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lambiam-2011-10-02T18:48:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-10-02T17:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Originally, it was meant to list notable publications; notable in the Wikipedia sense that there are independent reliable sources giving in-depth coverage. Some important publications were in academic journals, and then Category:Sociology books doesn't apply; Category:Sociology literature is not helpful either. Categories and lists serve a variety of purposes; given a specific purpose each has its advantages and disadvantages, and neither approach is uniformly and decisively better than the other; for example, imagine you need to find out in which Shakespeare play the character Hermione appears, and now compare Category:Shakespearean characters with List of Shakespearean characters. See further Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates.  --Lambiam 18:48, 2 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-02T18:48:00.000Z","author":"Lambiam","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Lambiam-2011-10-02T18:48:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-10-02T17:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

This list has been extensively rewritten and reborn as Bibliography of sociology. RockMagnetist (talk) 18:21, 22 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-22T18:21:00.000Z","author":"RockMagnetist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RockMagnetist-2011-11-22T18:21:00.000Z-List_of_important_publications_in_sociology","replies":[]}}-->

Hi there. I've added an RfC to this discussion at Talk:Campaign for "santorum" neologism and am looking for additional input. Thanks. SGMD1 ^Talk/_Contribs 02:50, 3 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-03T02:50:00.000Z","author":"SGMD1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SGMD1-2011-10-03T02:50:00.000Z-Request_for_comments_at_Talk:Campaign_for_\"santorum\"_neologism","replies":[]}}-->

In my review of GA+ sociology articles I've removed the project tag from an article on a person (Jon Burge), see Talk:Jon_Burge#Removing_sociology_project. My argument is that individuals who are not sociologists should not be within our project, even if they would be interesting case studies - because in fact all people, places and such could be stretched to be "interesting case studies" and included in our project. PS. For similar reasons, I've removed our project tag the Brassiere article, see Talk:Brassiere#Removing_WikiProject_Sociology_template. Also removed: Millwall F.C., History of Somalia (1991–2006), Winnie Winkle, Long hair, Pax Mongolica, Tobacco smoke enema and Diaphoneme; they are all too general. PPS. I was particularly torn about how relevant long hair is to our project. The article discusses social implications of long hair, but in the end, every social fact has social implications... and we cannot cover all articles related to social aspects of humanity on Wikipedia, even if sociology is interested in all that humans do. Thoughts? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 19:46, 5 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-05T19:46:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-10-05T19:46:00.000Z-Scope:_why_non-sociologists,_items_of_clothing,_sport_clubs_and_many_other_conce","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Within days, we should be getting new article list: Search result, Log, Rules. Currently, the feed is set to give us notification of all articles with the "sociolog" in it. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 05:29, 6 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-06T05:29:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-10-06T05:29:00.000Z-New_article_feed_ready","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

My partner and I are planning on implementing significant edits to the article on Structural Inequality and adding it to the WikiProject Sociology page. We wish to provide a broader and more comprehensive overview of structural inequality than what currently exists on the Wikipedia page. We believe it is relevant to the WikiProject Sociology page because many of our planned references in our research are grounded in sociological studies and presenting this information to the public through Wikipedia will give expand its audience and broaden awareness of the topic. We also hope that the heightened awareness resulting from joining this project page will bring the structural inequality page to the attention of Wikipedia users who can contribute their expertise to further improve the page. We would greatly appreciate feedback and suggestions for improvement and are excited to contribute to this page and to Wikipedia.

• LWang1991 (talk) 21:18, 15 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-15T21:18:00.000Z","author":"LWang1991","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LWang1991-2011-10-15T21:18:00.000Z-Structural_Inequality","replies":["c-Jeffree_lee-2011-10-15T21:19:00.000Z-LWang1991-2011-10-15T21:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
• Jeffree lee (talk) 21:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-15T21:19:00.000Z","author":"Jeffree lee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jeffree_lee-2011-10-15T21:19:00.000Z-LWang1991-2011-10-15T21:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I plan on creating a "work-family balance (United States)" page and adding it to Wikiproject Sociology. Right now there are three relevant articles that do not fully cover the scope of work-family balance in the U.S. specifically. They are work-life balance, work-family conflict, and work-life balance (United States). These three articles, even when combined, inadequately cover the issue. I do, however, plan on using important sections of these articles to help create this new one. I believe they do have valuable content -- they simply do not cover the topic adequately. I believe this would greatly benefit Wikiproject Sociology because of its extremely sociologically relevant subfields: family and work and occupations. The intersection of these two subfields are key Sections according to the American Sociological Association: Section on Organizations, Occupations and Work and Section on Family . I hope joining this Wikiproject and bringing it to the Project's attention will help this extremely important and relevant topic have more focus, quality, and exposure.

I would appreciate any feedback, comments, and constructive criticisms anyone would have! Talk:Work-family_Balance_(United_States)

Lillyyu (talk) 05:53, 17 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-17T05:53:00.000Z","author":"Lillyyu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lillyyu-2011-10-17T05:53:00.000Z-Work-Family_Balance_(United_States)","replies":[]}}-->

I'd appreciate any help with reviewing articles by my students around late November. See details here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:06, 17 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-17T15:06:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-10-17T15:06:00.000Z-Looking_for_Good_Article_reviewers_for_sociology_student_articles","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of new religious movements BigJim707 (talk) 11:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-18T11:14:00.000Z","author":"BigJim707","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BigJim707-2011-10-18T11:14:00.000Z-Project_article_of_deletion","replies":[]}}-->

I'm currently working on a contribution to the "theory and debate" section of Cultural imperialism. In doing so, I plan to separate the section into two, one being titled "Theoretical Foundations" and the other being "Contemporary ideas and debate." In the section entitled "Theoretical Foundations" I hope to give a little more background on Foucault, Derrida, and Said. And in the section entitled "Contemporary ideas and debate" I plan on talking about how the term is used in a variety of contexts such as Postcolonial critiques of development studies and of neoliberalism, representations of non-western peoples, and in sociological theories of labor. Currently, the page is under the umbrella of WikiProject Sociology, of start class and high importance. Any comments, suggestions, or advice would be greatly appreciated! Jkcory (Jkcory) 10:28 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Culture of capitalism (2nd nomination). I am trying to notify interested editors, as AfD policy says to do. The people who contributed to the article are mostly inactive and it is not listed in any projects. It seems like it might be related somewhat to this project. Thanks if you want to take part in the discussion. BigJim707 (talk) 19:41, 24 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-24T19:41:00.000Z","author":"BigJim707","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BigJim707-2011-10-24T19:41:00.000Z-AfD_2","replies":[]}}-->

Sadly, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Society of the People's Republic of China was deleted, as a testament to the inactivity of our project. It is a shame we cannot even save such key articles. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 21:55, 26 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-26T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-10-26T21:55:00.000Z-Chinese_society","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Hi everyone, I have just recently gone live with my article Racial wage gap in the United States. This is an entirely new article, and I am pretty new to Wikipedia, so I would love some feedback! Thanks! KiaraDouds (talk) 11:57, 2 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-02T11:57:00.000Z","author":"KiaraDouds","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KiaraDouds-2011-11-02T11:57:00.000Z-Racial_wage_gap_in_the_United_States","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-11-02T15:49:00.000Z-KiaraDouds-2011-11-02T11:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

A quick look suggests you can soon nominate it for WP:GAN. I'll provide a full review there. Before then, make sure to add proper categories, and blue links, the article has no categories and next to no links, both a major MoS issues (also, unnecessary capitalization is used in section headings). PS. You may also want to review a Male–female income disparity in the United States, a current GA candidate, and the reviewer comments on it (including mine). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:49, 2 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-02T15:49:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-11-02T15:49:00.000Z-KiaraDouds-2011-11-02T11:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-KiaraDouds-2011-11-09T15:59:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-02T15:49:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Thanks for the suggestion. I added the nomination yesterday. I would love your feedback! KiaraDouds (talk) 15:59, 9 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-09T15:59:00.000Z","author":"KiaraDouds","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-KiaraDouds-2011-11-09T15:59:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-02T15:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Community an article tagged by this project is up for good article review. You might like to respond to some of the concerns Community|here. AIRcorn (talk) 04:19, 4 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-04T04:19:00.000Z","author":"Aircorn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aircorn-2011-11-04T04:19:00.000Z-Community_GAR","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, I am relatively new to Wikipedia but do have Wiki experience. I ran across an article that is in need of merger into another topic. I've placed a merger notice at the top of the article Sociology and complexity science to Social complexity. Please see the discussion page Talk:Social_complexity for additional information or to comment. Thank you. Meclee (talk) 21:47, 4 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-04T21:47:00.000Z","author":"Meclee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Meclee-2011-11-04T21:47:00.000Z-Article_Merger","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-11-04T21:55:00.000Z-Meclee-2011-11-04T21:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

You should start a discussion section at the talk page. Currently I see no explanation for why the merger should happen there. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 21:55, 4 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-04T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-11-04T21:55:00.000Z-Meclee-2011-11-04T21:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Meclee-2011-11-05T04:43:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-04T21:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Apologies, I was working on that earlier, but something must have happened. It has has now been done, and I've posted a note to the page of the user who began the article Sociology_and_complexity_science. This is my area of expertise and I am happy to work on it. The articles are about the same topic, which is the application of complexity theory in Sociology. Meclee (talk) 04:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-05T04:43:00.000Z","author":"Meclee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Meclee-2011-11-05T04:43:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-04T21:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-11-10T03:27:00.000Z-Meclee-2011-11-05T04:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ah, that's all fine now. Let me know if you'd have any questions about wiki technicalities or such; this is not that close to my areas of expertise and it seems you have it well in hand. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 03:27, 10 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-10T03:27:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-11-10T03:27:00.000Z-Meclee-2011-11-05T04:43:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

The merger of Sociology_and_complexity_science into Social_complexity is essentially complete. I'm waiting a few more days for possible comments from Bcastel3 before performing redirect. In the meantime, I would appreciate other comments and consideration of removal of 'stub class' status. Meclee (talk) 05:14, 29 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-29T05:14:00.000Z","author":"Meclee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Meclee-2011-11-29T05:14:00.000Z-Article_Merger","replies":[]}}-->

At the time Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of important publications in sociology was nominated, I believe this wikiproject was not notified. It is currently at User:Curb Chain/List of important publications in sociology as User:RHaworth deleted it when I created it.Curb Chain (talk) 17:15, 5 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-05T17:15:00.000Z","author":"Curb Chain","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Curb_Chain-2011-11-05T17:15:00.000Z-List_of_important_publications_in_sociology_2","replies":["c-RockMagnetist-2011-11-13T21:18:00.000Z-Curb_Chain-2011-11-05T17:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

Now it is residing at Wikipedia:WikiProject Science pearls/Bibliography of sociology. The main thing it needs to be reinstated is some general references to support its existence as a list. RockMagnetist (talk) 21:18, 13 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-13T21:18:00.000Z","author":"RockMagnetist","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RockMagnetist-2011-11-13T21:18:00.000Z-Curb_Chain-2011-11-05T17:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I'm posting a note here to hopefully get responses from any one of the watchers of this project at the article talk page. See Talk:Adolescence#Merge Adolescent development here.

As I stated in my edit summary when tagging the articles for a merge: The Adolescent development article is a much better article on this topic and should be merged into the Adolescence article. It covers everything the Adolescence article should cover, and more.

With the two articles existing at once, it's like "Why have an Adolescence article when there is an Adolescent development article that covers this time period in much better detail?" I'm not seeing how the two topics can be distinguished, seeing as (like I said) the Adolescence article should cover exactly what the Adolescent development article covers.

It was turned away from a redirect on October 22, 2011,[2] and the article building started on November 3, 2011.[3] Like Talk:Adolescent development says, "The original version of this page was written by students in the Adolescent Development seminar at Oberlin College."

The rest of what I stated is at the article talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 06:15, 9 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-09T06:15:00.000Z","author":"Flyer22","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Flyer22-2011-11-09T06:15:00.000Z-Merging_Adolescent_development_with_Adolescence","replies":["c-Nxd10-2011-12-02T04:21:00.000Z-Flyer22-2011-11-09T06:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oberlin students from the seminar on Adolescent Development have been working on improving pages on related to the topic of Adolescence. They wrote a page on Adolescent Development (moving the old redirect from Youth Development and then improving the latter slightly). The Adolescent Development and Adolescence pages were merged by another user, flyer22. We are continuing flyer22's work on the merger 1) cleaning up and strengthening the merged page, adding new citations, 2) doing major expansion the section on cross-cultural variability in adolescence, as well as a new section on adolescence in the media. Other related pages are also being edited, including Peer Cliques (which will now include 'Crowds' in a broader discussion of peer groups, sibling relationships, relational aggression, youth subsculture, and juvenile delinquency. Several of these pages were marked as needing major revision and more citations. They are currently posting their proposed changes in the discussion sections of the relevant pages for feedback. The work should be complete by 12/14/11. Nxd10 (talk) 04:21, 2 December 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-02T04:21:00.000Z","author":"Nxd10","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nxd10-2011-12-02T04:21:00.000Z-Flyer22-2011-11-09T06:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

This is a cover term for the "revolutionary wave" that spanned from the 1750s to the 1830s: basically, the end of the Age of Enlightenment. The current article is listed as start-class and does not have a great deal of information. I know that the articles on the individual revolutions give plenty of information, but have started working on an expansion to the article. The expansion includes summaries of the revolutions (more than one paragraph). I am wondering if anyone else is interested in contributing to this. DCItalk 19:20, 13 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-13T19:20:00.000Z","author":"DCI2026","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DCI2026-2011-11-13T19:20:00.000Z-Atlantic_Revolutions","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-11-14T01:06:00.000Z-DCI2026-2011-11-13T19:20:00.000Z"],"displayName":"DCI"}}-->

Interested, yes, but will I have time... I'll try to add something on the May 3 Constitution. I'd strongly encourage you to move your work from the userspace to mainspace as soon as possible, userspace drafts are evil (as people forget about them, and/or cannot add to them as they are seen by some as "private"). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 01:06, 14 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-14T01:06:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-11-14T01:06:00.000Z-DCI2026-2011-11-13T19:20:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Portal:Constructed languages has been nominated for deletion, please see discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Constructed languages. — Cirt (talk) 04:23, 17 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-17T04:23:00.000Z","author":"Cirt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cirt-2011-11-17T04:23:00.000Z-Portal:Constructed_languages_nominated_for_deletion","replies":[]}}-->

"ASA is calling on its members to support the Association’s mission to deploy the power of Wikipedia to represent the discipline of sociology as fully and as accurately as possible. In addition, we seek to promote the free teaching of sociology worldwide."

See the ASA initiative homepage here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 19:58, 17 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-17T19:58:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-11-17T19:58:00.000Z-ASA_Wikipedia_Initiative_Launched","replies":["c-Pundit-2011-11-18T01:46:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-17T19:58:00.000Z","c-Wavelength-2011-11-18T23:52:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-17T19:58:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Yeah, I was just going to post :) Pundit|utter 01:46, 18 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-18T01:46:00.000Z","author":"Pundit","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pundit-2011-11-18T01:46:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-17T19:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

At least 34 organizations are known as "ASA".

—Wavelength (talk) 23:52, 18 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-18T23:52:00.000Z","author":"Wavelength","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wavelength-2011-11-18T23:52:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-17T19:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pundit-2011-11-19T15:27:00.000Z-Wavelength-2011-11-18T23:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

Surprising as it may be, it was not Austrian Space Agency, but American Sociological Association (for people interested in sociology and visiting WikiProject Sociology, the abbreviation may be unambiguous, but thanks for pointing out the potential misunderstanding) :) Pundit|utter 15:27, 19 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-19T15:27:00.000Z","author":"Pundit","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pundit-2011-11-19T15:27:00.000Z-Wavelength-2011-11-18T23:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I've recently started work on the wikipedia article mass media which is on Wikipedia's VA (Vital Article) list, and within your WikiProject. It is currently a stub and in a bad shape. Any help or guidance would be awesome. :D --Coin945 (talk) 13:26, 26 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-26T13:26:00.000Z","author":"Coin945","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Coin945-2011-11-26T13:26:00.000Z-Mass_Media","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-11-26T18:29:00.000Z-Coin945-2011-11-26T13:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll be happy to review it for B-class when you think you are ready for a peer review. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 18:29, 26 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-26T18:29:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-11-26T18:29:00.000Z-Coin945-2011-11-26T13:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Coin945-2011-11-28T05:24:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-26T18:29:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Although the article is a bit of a mess, I think a review might be a good idea so I know exactly what the article needs.--Coin945 (talk) 05:24, 28 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-28T05:24:00.000Z","author":"Coin945","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Coin945-2011-11-28T05:24:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-26T18:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-11-28T18:03:00.000Z-Coin945-2011-11-28T05:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Done. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 18:03, 28 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-28T18:03:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-11-28T18:03:00.000Z-Coin945-2011-11-28T05:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Coin945-2011-11-29T06:17:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-28T18:03:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

Like Thanks :)--Coin945 (talk) 06:17, 29 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-29T06:17:00.000Z","author":"Coin945","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Coin945-2011-11-29T06:17:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-28T18:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Is there agreement that Social_network_theory article should be split between 'social network theory' and 'social network analysis? Or should it just be cleaned-up? Either way, there is an article Social_network_analysis_software that should probably be merged into the Social network analysis portion. Meclee (talk) 00:49, 30 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-30T00:49:00.000Z","author":"Meclee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Meclee-2011-11-30T00:49:00.000Z-Social_Network_theory_vs._analysis","replies":["c-Piotrus-2011-11-30T01:34:00.000Z-Meclee-2011-11-30T00:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

The relevant discussion is here. I think we have a consensus to split, but do we have any expert who could do so in a professional way? I do not profess much familiarity with this area. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 01:34, 30 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-30T01:34:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Piotrus-2011-11-30T01:34:00.000Z-Meclee-2011-11-30T00:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Meclee-2011-11-30T03:53:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-30T01:34:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->

I've started work in a sandbox on an introduction to 'social network theory'. As I'm working, it occurs to me that there is little "theory" in and of itself. I'll put more on the discussion page.Meclee (talk) 03:53, 30 November 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-30T03:53:00.000Z","author":"Meclee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Meclee-2011-11-30T03:53:00.000Z-Piotrus-2011-11-30T01:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just a note that I've placed a MOVE request on Social network article to social network analysis as a step in splitting the article. I am almost ready to post a new "social network" article I've been working on in a sandbox. Meclee (talk) 21:35, 2 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-02T21:35:00.000Z","author":"Meclee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Meclee-2012-01-02T21:35:00.000Z-Social_Network_theory_vs._analysis","replies":[]}}-->

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Occupy London#Initial statement. -- Trevj (talk) 00:11, 9 December 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-09T00:11:00.000Z","author":"Trevj","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trevj-2011-12-09T00:11:00.000Z-Occupy_London","replies":[]}}-->

The article W. E. B. Du Bois is almost ready to be submitted for consideration as a Featured article. If anyone has time, it would be helpful to have additional reviewers at the in-progress peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/W. E. B. Du Bois/archive1. Thanks. --Noleander (talk) 15:23, 15 December 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-15T15:23:00.000Z","author":"Noleander","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Noleander-2011-12-15T15:23:00.000Z-Help_needed_with_W._E._B._Du_Bois","replies":[]}}-->